Immigration and Compliance Briefing: COVID-19 Summary of Government Relief and Potential “Public Charge Rule” Impact on Nonimmigrant and Immigrant Visa Applications

Public Charge Rule

The “Public Charge Rule” implemented by the Department of Homeland Security (“DHS”) on February 24, 2020 mandates that certain individuals applying for U.S. immigration status are generally inadmissible into the U.S. if they are found likely to become a public charge at any time. Individuals inside or outside the U.S. who seek to either obtain Lawful Permanent Resident status (apply for immigrant visas and “green cards”) or to extend or change nonimmigrant status (temporary visas) must now demonstrate that they have not received public benefits, or have received limited public benefits, with some exceptions. This requires individuals to provide with their applications for immigration status additional detailed information regarding finances (such as income, assets, credit scores, bank accounts, taxes, debts, etc.). Public benefits received prior to February 24, 2020 will not weigh heavily against these individuals. Immigration case impact and processing trends are still being determined given the fairly recent implementation of the Public Charge Rule.

Available guidance notes that public benefits considered for a public charge determination include, but are not limited to, the following: any federal, state, local, or tribal cash assistance for income maintenance. Examples include Supplemental Security Income (SSI) and Cash Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), Section 8 Housing Assistance & Project-Based Rental Assistance, Public Housing; and Medicaid. In contrast, the following are not considered for a public charge determination: tax credits; unemployment benefits; disaster relief assistance; certain forms of nutritional support, including Special Supplemental Nutrition for Women Infants and Children (WIC) and school breakfast and lunch; and certain Medicaid benefits, including emergency medical care, school-based services and benefits, and Medicaid for individuals under 21 years of age.

As a reminder, many non-immigrants (temporary visa holders) are not eligible to receive public benefits. Eligibility for public benefits depends on immigration status, age, and other factors. Use of public benefits to which an individual is not entitled may have adverse immigration consequences beyond the public charge determination. All individuals should carefully review eligibility criteria prior to applying for and/or using public benefits.

COVID-19 Relief Measures

In response to COVID-19, the federal government has enacted broad economic relief policies. These measures include direct financial aid to families through tax credit rebates, expanded unemployment benefits and new relief programs as well as indirect aid through increased federal funding for businesses and healthcare providers. Generally, the use of disaster relief assistance will not impact a public charge determination for individuals seeking immigration benefits. However, the use of public benefits during COVID-19 can still be considered in the public charge analysis.

Healthcare Measures

Federal legislation passed in response to COVID-19 provides additional federal funding for COVID-related testing and treatment, including increased funding for Community Health Centers and for testing and treatment of uninsured and underinsured individuals. USCIS is encouraging anyone experiencing COVID-19 symptoms to seek medical treatment and/or preventative care. Seeking testing, prevention, or treatment of COVID-19 will not factor into a public charge determination for purposes of seeking an immigration benefit, even if the testing/prevention/treatment is federally funded. However, eligibility for Medicaid has not changed, and enrollment in Medicaid during COVID-19 may still be used as a factor for determining an immigration benefit under the Public Charge Rule.

Stimulus Bill Rebate Payments

The CARES Act authorized the federal government to issue one-time tax credit rebate payments to certain taxpaying individuals and households, including certain temporary nonimmigrants. Depending on income, eligible individuals can receive up to $1,200 while eligible households can receive up to $2,400. In addition, eligible individuals with children can receive $500 per dependent child under 17 years of age.

The rebate payments authorized by the CARES Act are considered tax credit payments, which will not factor into a public charge determination.  However, note the following:

  • Eligibility for tax-credit rebate payments depends on filing 2018 and/or 2019 taxes and tax residency status and requires all recipients to possess a valid social security number with limited exceptions for certain military households and adopted dependent children. This means that many mixed-status families (families with individuals in different immigration statuses) may not be eligible for the stimulus check.
  • Receiving tax credit payments in error may lead to an individual or household owing taxes, which could be used in a public charge determination for purposes of seeking an immigration benefit. It is very important that any individual receiving a tax credit rebate check ensure that they are in fact eligible to receive it.

Food and Nutritional Assistance

The Families First Act authorizes states to provide supplemental SNAP benefits to SNAP households and creates a new program, Pandemic EBT (“P-EBT”), authorizing states to provide meal assistance to children who are out of school due to COVID-19 and who would otherwise receive free or reduced school lunches. P-EBT is considered disaster relief assistance and will not factor into a Public Charge determination. However, eligibility for SNAP has not changed and enrollment in SNAP may still be used as a factor for determining an immigration benefit under the Public Charge Rule.

Unemployment Benefits

When individuals become unemployed through no fault of their own, they may qualify for relief through unemployment benefits. Unemployment benefits pay out a portion of an individual’s prior income while the individual is unemployed, and are administered by states with oversight from the Department of Labor (DOL). The benefits program is funded through taxes paid by employers. Although the federal government has set a few eligibility requirements, states are largely able to determine their own individual eligibility criteria and benefit levels for basic unemployment benefits.

While eligibility requirements for unemployment benefits vary by state, generally someone must be considered “able and available to work” before s/he is eligible to collect unemployment benefits. Since many temporary nonimmigrant work visas (such as H-1Bs and L-1s) require employer sponsorship prior to employment authorization, most people with these types of visas are not considered to be able and available to work. Individuals with other types of work authorization, such as an unrestricted EAD (Employment Authorization Document), may be eligible for unemployment benefits.

The CARES Act expands on basic unemployment benefits through three programs: Pandemic Unemployment Compensation (PUC), Pandemic Emergency Unemployment Compensation (PEUC), and Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA). These programs increase coverage and availability, but eligibility criteria are still determined by individual states.   Some states have temporarily waived eligibility requirements due to COVID-19, including the able and available requirement. This waiver may expand the types of non-U.S. workers who qualify for unemployment benefits in those states. Additionally, some states have waived waiting periods and increased payments.

Unemployment benefits are considered earned benefits and will not factor into a public charge determination.

SBA Loans

COVID-19 relief packages provide funding for small businesses in the form of loans, interest relief for certain loans, and waivers of certain fees.  Certain non-U.S. citizens who own or share ownership in qualifying businesses may apply for an SBA (Small Business Administration) loan.

SBA loans are unlikely to impact a public charge determination because generally disaster relief programs are not considered in the analysis. Also, an SBA loan is granted to a company rather than to an individual, while a public charge determination focuses on an individual

Given that this is a rapidly changing situation, please also refer to the following online resources, and be sure to review the “last updated” date:


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Sellers Beware – The COVID-19 Pandemic Has Opened the “Price-Gouging” Pandora’s Box

As the Covid-19 emergency goes on, both federal and New Jersey authorities have begun to enforce anti-price gouging and anti-hoarding provisions of federal and state law. A wide range of businesses, including but going beyond the sellers of medical equipment, should be aware of the limits imposed by these statutes and the dangers posed by enforcement.

A.        The New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act

As has been widely reported in the media, the State of New Jersey is aggressively enforcing the anti-price gouging provisions of the Consumer Fraud Act, N.J.S.A. 56:8-107 through 109, during the current coronavirus emergency. Enforcement of the statute by the Division of Consumer Affairs or by private civil action under the Consumer Fraud Act poses a risk to the sellers of a broad variety of goods. However, it also poses a potential remedy for business purchasers for end use whose ordinary supply chain has been disrupted by the emergency.

During a state of emergency declared by the Governor, N.J.S.A. 56:8-109 declares it to be an “unlawful commercial practice” for any person to sell or offer for sale “any merchandise which is consumed or used as a direct result of an emergency or which is consumed or used to preserve, protect, or sustain the life, health, safety or comfort of persons or their property for a price that constitutes an excessive price increase.”  In turn N.J.S.A. 56:8-108 defines an “excessive price increase” as more than 10 percent greater than the seller’s price in the usual course of business immediately before the declaration of emergency, unless the price increase is attributable either to the seller passing through increased prices from its supplier or costs imposed by the emergency. In that case, the statute defines an excess price increase as an increase of more than 10 percent beyond the seller’s customary pre-emergency markup.

The statutory language sweeps broadly and may be applied to price increases of almost any product where demand has increased or the supply chain has been disrupted by the coronavirus emergency. A recent news story reports that more than 3,600 complaints of alleged price-gouging have been made to the Attorney General’s Division of Consumer Affairs, against more than 2,100 business, involving not only medical supplies but food and commodities in short supply like toilet paper and disinfectants. The Division is urging the public to remain “vigilant” and is actively soliciting complaints on its website. As it investigates complaints, the Division is issuing subpoenas for the seller’s pre-emergency and current cost, price and markup information. The defense of passing through increased costs requires the seller to document both higher charges from suppliers and other costs, such as hazard pay for employees, imposed by the emergency.

Penalties for violation of the Consumer Fraud Act include civil penalties of up to $10,000 for a first offense. There are additional penalties if the violation was directed against senior citizens or persons with disabilities. In addition, the Attorney General may obtain an injunction against future violations. The courts may order restitution to consumers of money obtained in violation of the Act, and twice the amount obtained in the case of senior citizens. Failure to make restitution as ordered is punishable as contempt of court.

In addition to the enforcement powers of the Attorney General, N.J.S.A. 56:8-19 gives any person who has suffered an “ascertainable loss of moneys or property . . . as a result of any practice declared unlawful” under the Consumer Fraud Act as amended or supplemented a private right of action to recover treble damages and attorneys’ fees, either directly or as a counterclaim in a suit by the seller. No reported decision decides whether this private right of action would apply to a violation of the Act’s anti-price gouging provisions, but it is reasonable to anticipate that creative counsel are contemplating private class actions on behalf of retail purchasers.

The private right of action under the Consumer Fraud Act extends not only to individual consumers but to businesses that purchase supplies or equipment for use in the business. Hospitals, medical practices and other large scale purchasers of supplies and equipment affected by the coronavirus emergency may wish to explore that possibility.

B.        The Federal Defense Production Act

The Korean War vintage Defense Production Act (“DPA”) gives the President broad powers to direct the production of essential goods and to prioritize their distribution during periods of declared national emergency. Section 101 of the DPA, 50 U.S.C. § 4511, authorizes the President or his delegate to designate goods as scarce materials critical to the national defense. Section 102 of the Act, 50 U.S.C.§ 4512, the anti-hoarding provision, prohibits any person from accumulating “1) in excess of the reasonable demands of business, personal, or home consumption, or (2) for the purpose of resale at prices in excess of prevailing market prices, materials which have been designated by the President as scarce materials or materials the supply of which would be threatened by such accumulation.”  Designations are required to be published in the Federal Register. Section 103 of the DPA, 50 U.S.C. § 4513 makes the violation of § 102 a federal crime subject to a $10,000 fine and one year imprisonment. In addition § 706, 50 U.S.C. § 4556, authorizes the federal courts to enjoin violations of the DPA at the suit of the government. Other provisions, not relevant here, authorize the government to provide incentives and subsidies to increase production of essential goods.

The DPA is based on the War Powers Acts of World War II. It is designed to authorize the kind of command economy in place during that war, in which the armed forces were the sole end user, the government controlled production by placing contracts, fixing priorities and allocating raw materials, and the government directly controlled prices in the civilian market. It empowers the federal government to become the sole buyer and allocator of materials critical to the national defense. However, the President has chosen not to take the responsibility for centralized purchasing and allocation of critical medical supplies. Instead, the federal government has decided to allow states and other end users to compete for limited resources while using the DPA’s criminal provisions to try to curb the more egregious examples of exploitation.

On March 23, 2020, the President issued Executive Orders 13909 and 13910, which invoke his authority under DPA § 101 to declare ventilators and medical personal protective equipment as scarce materials critical to the national defense. Under authority designated by the Executive Orders, on March 25, 2020 the Secretary of Health and Human Services designated a variety of masks, gloves, gowns, face shields and other personal protective equipment, as well as respirators, sterilization materials, and ventilators as scarce materials subject to the anti-hoarding section of the DPA.  The designation was published in the Federal Register at 85 FR 17592 (Mar. 30, 2020). It enumerates the types of short-supply equipment but does not provide guidance as to what constitutes accumulation in excess of reasonable demand for consumption or what prices are considered in excess of the prevailing market price.

The Department of Justice has created a joint federal-state anti-hoarding task force under the leadership of the United States Attorney for the District of New Jersey, and several criminal prosecutions of alleged hoarders have been instituted. However, the prohibitions in DPA § 102 of accumulation “in excess of reasonable demands” for the holder’s consumption or for resale at a price “in excess of prevailing market prices” appear to impose a rather vague standard of criminal liability, and there do not appear to be any reported decisions interpreting them. Unlike the New Jersey statute, there is no definite markup that would be allowed.

DPA § 104, 50 U.S.C. §4514, prohibits the President from imposing wage or price controls without Congressional authorization. Perhaps for that reason, the government has not set permissible prices for short-supply equipment at any time since the HHS designation. Instead, the government is taking the position that prevailing prices are either prices in effect in January and February of 2020, before the coronavirus crisis began in the United States, or that they are “benchmark” prices of a major private manufacturer. Whether either of those standards provides fair advance notice sufficient to support criminal liability is, to say the least, contestable.

In addition, the government’s position appears to criminalize what may be entirely legitimate economic activity. Experience has shown that there were large amounts of masks and other designated short-supply medical equipment scattered in pockets of inventory around the United States and abroad. Middlemen perform the valuable service of finding these supplies, marshaling them and making them available to end users. That takes effort, which will not be undertaken without the prospect of compensation. Unlike the New Jersey statute, the DPA does not on its face recognize the costs incurred by accumulators to obtain otherwise unavailable goods, either those passed through from upstream sellers, the expenses of search, or reasonable compensation for the effort involved.

In conclusion, the government has not used the Defense Production Act to set prices directly. Its criminal anti-hoarding provisions  are a very blunt instrument for regulating economic activity in a time of shortage, especially because the federal government is not acting as the sole buyer or allocator of goods or fixing prices but is instead requiring end users of short-supply equipment to compete against each other. These criminal provisions have never been tested in court, and they leave open the possibility of vigorous defense based on the lack of a clear standard of criminal liability, on the need to attract scarce goods into the market, and on the pass-through of legitimate costs incurred to do so, including a reasonable profit.


© Copyright 2020 Sills Cummis & Gross P.C.

For more on COVID-19 related price issues, see the National Law Review Coronavirus News legal section.

Temperature Screening: New Guidance From the CDC, FAQs, and Best Practices

With states beginning to ease stay-at-home orders, employers are formulating plans to return employees to the workplace. As part of this process, many employers are considering implementing regular employee temperature checks in an effort to keep employees safe. While this measure may have seemed unthinkable and fraught with risks even just a couple of months ago, we expect that health screenings, including temperature checks, will become increasingly prevalent in the workplace. In fact, just last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (“CDC”) issued guidance on how employers and businesses can safely conduct temperature checks. Key portions of that guidance are summarized below, along with a list of common questions and best practices employers should consider before requiring employees to undergo regular temperature checks.

1. Are employers required to screen employees’ temperatures before they enter the workplace?

The answer depends on the state(s) in which the employer operates.  Some states are now requiring employers to conduct regular temperature checks on employees.  For example, Colorado requires certain critical and noncritical businesses to conduct daily temperature checks and monitor employees’ symptoms, and employers with 50 or more employees at one location must implement stations for symptom screenings and temperature checks.  Other states such as Indiana require all employers to implement a COVID-19 response plan, which includes implementing a health screening process for employees that may include regular temperature checks.  Additionally, employers may be subject to different temperature check requirements based on industry.  For example, Washington requires construction contractors to screen all workers at the beginning of their shift by taking their temperature and asking them if they have symptoms.  Any worker found to have a temperature of 100.4 degrees or higher must be sent home.  That said, many states currently have no temperature check mandate, including–for now–Illinois (with limited exceptions such as certain health care and long-term care employees), giving many employers some flexibility to determine how best to screen employees for symptoms, if at all.  Employers should consult and keep a close eye on ever-changing state and local guidelines to determine if and when temperature checks are required.

2. Even if there is no state or local mandate, can employers still require employees to submit to routine on-site temperature checks as a condition of employment?

Yes, provided that temperature checks are administered safely, consistently and in a non-discriminatory manner.  The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (“EEOC”) has issued guidance confirming that temperature checks are a permissible screening mechanism to use during the COVID-19 pandemic. However, to avoid discrimination claims, employers generally should not pick and choose who is subject to temperature screening unless it is part of a nondiscriminatory plan (e.g., screening only that portion of the workforce where social distancing measures may not be feasible, such as warehouses or manufacturing plants).  Note that if employers choose to screen every employee entering a facility, employers may need to conduct such checks on anyone entering the workplace–not just employees–to minimize the risk of discrimination claims and to reduce the risk of transmission.

3. What are the key CDC guidelines for conducting on-site temperature screenings?

The CDC outlines two options for on-site screenings. The first approach relies on barrier/partition controls and personal protective equipment (“PPE”) and the second approach relies exclusively on PPE.

Under the first approach, the screener stands behind a physical barrier, such as a glass or plastic window or partition.  Using disposable gloves, the screener checks the employee’s temperature by reaching around the partition or through the window.  It is critical that the screener’s face remain behind the barrier at all times during the screening.

Under the second approach, the screener uses a face mask, eye protection (goggles or disposable face shield that fully covers the front and sides of the face), disposable gloves and a gown (if physical contact with an employee is anticipated) when taking employees’ temperatures.

When conducting temperature checks on multiple employees, the screener should use a clean pair of gloves for each employee and ensure that the thermometer is thoroughly cleaned after each use.  If the screener is using a disposable or non-contact thermometer (i.e., non-contact infrared thermometers, tympanic thermometers, and thermal scanners) and he or she does not make physical contact with the employee, then the CDC states that the screener need not change his or her gloves after each check.

Under either approach, the CDC confirms that employees found to have a temperature of 100.4 degrees or higher should be sent home immediately and instructed to promptly contact their doctor.  Employers should follow up with employees who are sent home with additional information about any available benefits and return-to-work protocol.  The CDC further recommends that employees maintain social distancing when waiting for their turn to be screened, and to the extent possible, screening should take place before an employee enters the physical workplace.

The CDC guidance can be found here:  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/general-business-faq.html

4. How should the temperature screeners be selected and trained?

An obvious first choice for a screener is often a medical officer or nurse, if such an employee is available and on staff.  If not, employers should carefully select an appropriate screener, ensure that the individual is comfortable with the role, and consider providing such individual with additional compensation or hazard pay.  Alternatively, there are third-party vendors who now offer these types of services, though such vendors should be carefully vetted.  Finally, employers are even turning to robots or robotic arms to conduct screens in order to reduce the risk of exposure during the screening process.

No matter who is selected, screeners should be trained on how to safely complete temperature screens, the proper use and disposal of PPE, and maintaining employee privacy.  As a best practice, we recommend that employers retain a medical professional to train screeners on how to safely and effectively conduct a temperature check, or at a minimum, employers should consult a medical professional to provide and confirm such information.  We also recommend that screeners sign a document establishing the protocol, requiring confidentiality of employee medical information, and confirming that the individual has been informed of and consents to the risks of serving as a screener.

5. What kind of thermometer should be used?

As a practical matter, we strongly advise that employers use a disposable or no-contact thermometer to prevent the spread of the virus. In fact, without a disposable or contactless device, employers may want to consider abandoning temperature checks altogether (if doing so will not run afoul of state or local law) and instead rely on other screening measures.  The risk of inadvertently using a contaminated device may outweigh any potential benefits gained from implementing a screening protocol in the first place.

However, if an employer uses a sophisticated device, including robots, to screen employees’ temperatures, Illinois employers should be aware of yet another potential legal pitfall.  Some devices and robots rely on artificial intelligence, including in some cases, facial recognition capabilities.  Such equipment could implicate the Illinois Biometric Information Privacy Act (“BIPA”), which has strict notice, disclosure and consent requirements.  Employers should discuss these risks with counsel before using any such devices.

6. If employees are required to undergo a temperature screening before clocking into work, must the employer compensate them for that time?

In most cases, yes.  While the answer to this question may depend, in part, on state law, we generally recommend that employers compensate employees for any time spent waiting to be screened and participating in the screening process in order to comply with the Fair Labor Standards Act (“FLSA”) and state wage and hour laws.  Running afoul of these laws by not paying employees for otherwise compensable pre-shift activities can be much more costly in the long run than paying employees for the time spent in the screening process itself.

7. What are the privacy concerns related to temperature checks?

The Americans with Disabilities Act (“ADA”) requires employers to maintain the confidentiality of all information obtained through disability-related inquiries and medical examinations.  Temperature screening is a medical examination under the ADA. Accordingly, any information collected as part of the screening process must be treated as a confidential medical record and maintained separately from the employee’s personnel file.  It may be disclosed only in limited circumstances. Employers should also consider how to best protect the privacy of those employees who are found to have an elevated temperature and need to be sent home (e.g., allowing for an inconspicuous exit, private screening, drive-through screening, etc.).

8. What if an employee refuses to participate in on-site temperature checks?

As a general matter, employees can be required to undergo temperature checks as a condition of employment, and those who refuse to do so should be sent home.  Employers should communicate the requirements for temperature checks and the consequences for failing to cooperate in a clearly written notice or policy that is distributed to all employees in advance of the implementation of the screening protocol.  Employees who refuse to adhere to those requirements may be disciplined, provided that any such discipline is administered in a consistent and nondiscriminatory manner.  However, for a variety of reasons (including employee morale), employers should consider whether discipline is truly necessary.  The better option may be to simply send the employee home or deny them access to the workplace.  When in doubt, employers should consult counsel before implementing discipline.

9. Is fever alone a reliable indicator of COVID-19?

According to the medical community, no.  Unfortunately, an elevated temperature is not a definitive indicator of the illness, and an employee may be contagious even without a fever. For that reason, and as discussed further below, employers should consider implementing other screening mechanisms either in lieu of on-site temperature screening (if allowed under applicable law) or in addition to temperature screening.

10. If fever is not a reliable indicator of COVID-19, why are employers implementing temperature screening?

Employers are looking for concrete steps they can take to reduce the risk of exposure in the workplace.  Unlike most COVID-19 symptoms, body temperature can be objectively screened and verified.  While temperature screening will not effectively identify asymptomatic cases, it still has the ability to catch positive cases and help prevent a potential outbreak in the workplace.  In many instances, employers are implementing temperature screening in an attempt to alleviate employee anxiety.  Some employers are reporting that employees actually want to have temperature checks in place to know that their employer is taking meaningful, proactive steps to keep them safe.  In other words, temperature screening may be as much of an employee relations (and public relations) tool as it is a prevention mechanism. In weighing the decision to implement on-site screening, employers should consider whether employees will be comforted by the process of temperature checks or if it will instead stoke fear and panic.

11. How should employees be notified of on-site screening measures?

We recommend that employers provide employees with advance, written notice of temperature checks and any other screening measures.  The notice or policy statement should explain the basis and method for conducting the screening, the steps the employer is taking to protect employee safety and privacy, and the consequences for failing to comply.  To avoid a false sense of security, the notice should also make clear that just because someone does not have a fever does not necessarily mean that the person does not have the virus.  The notice should explain that many people who test positive for COVID-19 are asymptomatic, and that employees should continue to take appropriate precautions and self-monitor and report to the employer the presence of any other symptoms.

12. What are the alternatives to on-site temperature screening?

As discussed above, on-site temperature screening presents potential logistical and legal issues that may steer some employers away from taking such measures.  As an alternative to on-site temperature screening, many employers are instead considering and implementing some type of employee self-assessment or self-monitoring protocol.  This can be accomplished through completion of daily self-assessment and/or certification forms in which the employee is asked to self-report temperature, other symptoms, or potential exposure events.  Other employers are relying on a one-time policy document whereby employees acknowledge and agree that by reporting to work each day, they are certifying that they have no symptoms.  Some employers are even incorporating the daily certification into timekeeping software (without disclosing medical information).

According to the CDC, it is reasonable to ask employees to take their own temperature before arriving to work.  This helps reduce the risk that those who are experiencing symptoms of COVID-19 will expose others to the virus by traveling to or reporting to work.  Therefore, some employers may opt to have employees conduct their own temperature checks before arriving at work, which alleviates some of the logistical and legal concerns.  However, note that employers in some states, like California and Illinois, may need to foot the bill for supplying employees with thermometers needed to complete any such self-assessment.

Regardless of the approach taken, we believe that employers should implement some type of symptom screening mechanism, even if it is not an on-site temperature check. And if an employer does decide to conduct on-site temperature screening (or is required to do so by law), we believe temperature checks should be used in conjunction with other screening efforts such as requiring employees to identify other symptoms or potential exposure incidents.  In other words, temperature screening should be just one of many potential tools in the employer’s arsenal to combat COVID-19 in the workplace.


© 2020 Vedder Price

For more on the return to work after COVID-19 process, see the National Law Review Coronavirus News legal section.

Patentablity of COVID19 Software Inventions: Artificial Intelligence (AI), Data Storage & Blockchain

The  Coronavirus pandemic revved up previously scarce funding for scientific research.  Part one of this series addressed the patentability of COVID-19 related Biotech, Pharma & Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) Inventions and whether inventions related to fighting COVID-19  should be patentable.  Both economists and lawmakers are critical of the exclusivity period granted by patents, especially in the case of vaccines and drugs.  Recently, several members of Congress requested “no exclusivity” for any “COVID-19 vaccine, drug, or other therapeutic.”[i]

In this segment, the unique issues related to the intellectual property rights of Coronavirus related software inventions, specifically, Artificial Intelligence (AI), Data Storage & Blockchain are addressed.

Digital Innovations

Historically, Americans have adhered to personalized healthcare and lacked the incentive to set up a digital infrastructure similar to Taiwan’s which has fared far better in combating the spread of a fast-moving virus.[ii]  But as hospitals continue to operate at maximum capacity and with prolonged social distancing, the software sector is teeming with digital solutions for increasing the virtual supply of healthcare to a wider network of patients,[iii] particularly as HHS scales back HIPAA regulations.[iv]  COVID-19 has also spurred other types of digital innovation, such as using AI to predict the next outbreak and electronic hospital bed management, etc.[v]

One area of particular interest is the use of blockchain and data storage in a COVID/post-COVID world.  Blockchains can serve as secure ledgers for the global supply of medical equipment, including respirators, ventilators, dialysis machines, and oxygen masks.[vi]  The Department of Homeland Security has also deemed blockchain managers in food and agricultural distribution as “critical infrastructure workers”.[vii]

Patentability

Many of these digital inventions will have a hard time with respect to patentability, especially those related to data storage such as blockchains.  In 2014, the Supreme Court found computer-related inventions were “abstract ideas” ineligible for patent protection in Alice v. CLS Bank.[viii]  Because computer-implemented programs execute steps that can theoretically be performed by a human being but are only automated by a machine, the Supreme Court concluded that patenting software would be patenting human activity.  This type of patent protection has long been considered by the Court to be too broad and dangerous.

Confusion

The aftermath of Alice is widespread confusion amongst members of the patent bar as well as the USPTO as to how computer-related software patents were to be treated henceforth.[ix]   The USPTO attempted to clarify some of this confusion by a series of Guidelines in 2019.[x]  Although well-received by the IP community, the USPTO’s Guidelines are not binding outside of the agency, meaning they are have little dispositive effect when parties must bring their cases to the Federal Circuit and other courts.[xi]  Indeed, the Federal Circuit has made clear that they are not bound by the USPTO’s guidance.[xii]  The Supreme Court will not provide further clarification and denied cert on all patent eligibility petitions in January of this year.[xiii]

The Future

Before the coronavirus outbreak, Congress was working on patent reform.[xiv]  But the long-awaited legislation was set aside further still as legislators focused on needed measures to address the pandemic.  On top of that, both Senator Tillis and Senator Coons who have spearheaded the efforts for patent reform are now facing reelection battles, making the future congressional leadership on patent reform uncertain.

Conclusion

Patents receive a lot of flak for being company assets, and like many assets, patents are subject to abuse.[xv]  But patents are necessary for innovation, particularly for small and medium-sized companies by carving out a safe haven in the marketplace from the encroachment of larger companies.[xvi]  American leadership in medical innovations had been declining for some time prior to the pandemic[xvii] due to the cumbersome US regulatory and legal environments, particularly for tech start-ups seeking private funding.[xviii]

Not all data storage systems should receive a patent and no vaccine should receive a patent so broad that it snuffs out public access to alternatives.  The USPTO considers novelty, obviousness and breadth when dispensing patent exclusivity, and they revisit the issue of patent validity downstream with inter partes review.  There are measures in place for ensuring good patents so let that system take its course.  A sweeping prohibition of patents is not the right answer.

The opinions stated herein are the sole opinions of the author and do not reflect the views or opinions of the National Law Review or any of its affiliates


[i] Congressional Progressive Leaders Announce Principles On COVID-19 Drug Pricing for Next Coronavirus Response Package, (2020), https://schakowsky.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressional-progressive-leaders-announce-principles-COVID-19-drug-pricing (last visited May 10, 2020).

[ii] Christina Farr, Why telemedicine has been such a bust so far, CNBC (June 30, 2018), https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/29/why-telemedicine-is-a-bust.html and Nick Aspinwall, Taiwan Is Exporting Its Coronavirus Successes to the World, Foreign Policy (April 9, 2020), https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/09/taiwan-is-exporting-its-coronavirus-successes-to-the-world/.

[iii] Joe Harpaz, 5 Reasons Why Telehealth Is Here To Stay (COVID-19 And Beyond), Forbes (May 4, 2020), https://www.forbes.com/sites/joeharpaz/2020/05/04/5-reasons-why-telehealth-here-to-stay-COVID19/#7c4d941753fb.

[iv] Jessica Davis, OCR Lifts HIPAA Penalties for Telehealth Use During COVID-19, Health IT Security (March 18, 2020), https://healthitsecurity.com/news/ocr-lifts-hipaa-penalties-for-telehealth-use-during-COVID-19.

[v] Charles Alessi, The effect of the COVID-19 epidemic on health and care – is this a portent of the ‘new normal’?, HealthcareITNews (March 31, 2020), https://www.healthcareitnews.com/blog/europe/effect-COVID-19-epidemic-health-and-care-portent-new-normal and COVID-19 and AI: Tracking a Virus, Finding a Treatment, Wall Street Journal (April 17, 2020), https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/wsj-the-future-of-everything/COVID-19-and-ai-tracking-a-virus-finding-a-treatment/f064ac83-c202-40f9-8259-426780b36f2c.

[vi] Sara Castellenos, A Cryptocurrency Technology Finds New Use Tackling Coronavirus, Wall Street Journal (April 23, 2020), https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-cryptocurrency-technology-finds-new-use-tackling-coronavirus-11587675966?mod=article_inline.

[vii] Christopher C. Krebs, MEMORANDUM ON IDENTIFICATION OF ESSENTIAL CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE WORKERS DURING COVID-19 RESPONSE, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (March 19, 2020), available at https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/CISA-Guidance-on-Essential-Critical-Infrastructure-Workers-1-20-508c.pdf.

[viii] Alice v. CLS Bank, 573 U.S. 208 (2014), available at https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-298_7lh8.pdf.

[ix] David O. Taylor, Confusing Patent Eligibility, 84 Tenn. L. Rev. 157 (2016), available at https://scholar.smu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1221&context=law_faculty.

[x] 2019 Revised Patent Subject Matter Eligibility Guidance, United States Patent Office (January 7, 2019), available at https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/01/07/2018-28282/2019-revised-patent-subject-matter-eligibility-guidance.

[xi] Steve Brachmann, Latest CAFC Ruling in Cleveland Clinic Case Confirms That USPTO’s 101 Guidance Holds Little Weight, IPWatchDog (April 7, 2019), https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2019/04/07/latest-cafc-ruling-cleveland-clinic-confirms-uspto-101-guidance-holds-little-weight/id=107998/.

[xii] Id.

[xiii] U.S. Supreme Court Denies Pending Patent Eligibility Petitions, Holland and Knight LLP (January 14, 2020), https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/u-s-supreme-court-denies-pending-patent-55501/.

[xiv] Tillis and Coons: What We Learned At Patent Reform Hearings, (June 24, 2019), available at https://www.tillis.senate.gov/2019/6/tillis-and-coons-what-we-learned-at-patent-reform-hearings.

[xv] Gene Quinn, Twisting Facts to Capitalize on COVID-19 Tragedy: Fortress v. bioMerieux, IPWatchDog (March 18, 2020), https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2020/03/18/twisting-facts-capitalize-COVID-19-tragedy-fortress-v-biomerieux/id=119941/.

[xvi] Paul R. Michel, To prepare for the next pandemic, Congress should restore patent protections for diagnostic tests, Roll Call (April 28, 2020), https://www.rollcall.com/2020/04/28/to-prepare-for-the-next-pandemic-congress-should-restore-patent-protections-for-diagnostic-tests/.

[xvii] Medical Technology Innovation Scorecard_The race for global leadership, PwC (January 2011), https://www.pwc.com/il/en/pharmaceuticals/assets/innovation-scorecard.pdf.

[xviii] Elizabeth Snell, How Health Privacy Regulations Hinder Telehealth Adoption, HealthITSecurity (May 5, 2015),https://healthitsecurity.com/news/how-health-privacy-regulations-hinder-telehealth-adoption.


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Patentability of COVID-19 Biotech, Pharma & Personal Protective Equipment Inventions

The innovative workforce has been redirected.  Spurred by the  Coronavirus pandemic, scientific research that once floundered from a lack of funding has been rejuvenated.[i]  The current innovation upsurge is not out of sheer interest for promoting the useful arts, however, but out of necessity.  Around the world, inventors are developing ways to cope with the new world engendered by COVID-19, from treatments for fighting disease to methods of predicting the next outbreak.

Alongside the proliferation of inventions and discoveries is the issue of financial rewards for these innovations.  Should inventions related to fighting COVID-19 be patentable? Many economists and lawmakers are critical of the exclusivity period granted by patents, especially in the case of vaccines and drugs.  Recently, several members of Congress requested “no exclusivity” for any “COVID-19 vaccine, drug, or other therapeutic.”[ii]

This article examines the patentability of developments in the Biotechnology, Pharmaceutical, and Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)  technology sectors related to COVID-19 and looks into the merits of patent criticism.   Part two of this series examines the Patentability of  COVID-19 Software Inventions – Artificial Intelligence (AI), Data Storage & Blockchain.

The Patentability of Inventions Related to COVID-19 – Biotechnology and Pharmaceutical Inventions

No doubt the most vociferous anti-patent sentiment is directed at the idea of patenting vaccines and treatments which enable companies to price their products well above the marginal cost of production.  Remdesivir, which was recently approved by the FDA for emergency COVID treatment, has a projected cost ranging from $390 to $4,460 per treatment course depending on the mortality benefit.[iii]  But an outright prohibition of patent protection for these inventions is an over-correction of these understandable concerns.  Patent protection has already been eroded over the last ten years and further erosion could lead to a decline in US leadership in the healthcare sector over time[iv]

Disclosure of Ideas

One of the basic principles of having patents is that a period of exclusivity is granted in return for inventors disclosing their inventions to the public, thereby probing further downstream studies and research into the disclosed art. Proponents of patent pools and “open science” argue that the free exchange of ideas will occur without the disclosure requirement that accompanies patent application, pointing to systems like the WHO’s Global Influenza Surveillance and Response System (GISRS).  Under GISRS, experts around the world collaborate to develop each year’s flu vaccine.[v]  GISRS is cited as proof that a patent-less system does not prohibit the disclosure of ideas and findings.[vi]

This type of open science system is not realistic for private companies, however.  GISRS is composed of national collaborating centers that collect data from participating public entities such as federal agencies and state public health laboratories.[vii]  The participants of GISRS have very little commercial stake when it comes to the disclosure of research findings.  A similar system cannot be expected to work in the realm of private enterprise especially in the long term.

Incentive to Innovate

Inventions related to the biotechnology and pharmaceutical spheres are already extremely difficult to patent as it is due to Mayo v. Prometheus Laboratories.[viii]  The Supreme Court found that a therapeutic treatment for a gastrointestinal disorder was not patentable whatsoever, believing that the diagnostics involved in the treatment was similar to patenting a “law of nature.”  The aftermath of Mayo was a significant increase in rejections against patent applications related to biotechnology and pharmaceuticals on the grounds of them being non-patentable subject matter.[ix]  The ongoing cost of prosecution in the face of these rejections was especially damaging to small and medium-sized companies that lack the financial means to repeatedly contend with the USPTO.[x]

Importantly, Mayo is a case related to diagnostics.  Therefore, inventions directed to diagnostics are even more difficult to patent.  It is no secret that the US has struggled when it comes to providing widespread and accurate COVID testing.  Judge Michel of the Federal Circuit believes that Mayo contributed to the country’s unpreparedness for the crisis by eliminating “incentives for private companies to develop diagnostic tests”.[xi]  There are many reasons for the failure of the test rollouts, but the US would have been better positioned to fight the pandemic had the proper innovative incentives been in place for the companies that we now rely on.

Recouping Cost

Currently, Gilead has not yet set a price for remdesivir but will be donating its initial supply of 1.5 million doses.[xii]  Ultimately, they will set a price that will most likely be above the marginal cost of $10 to produce a 10-day course of treatment per patient.  Remdesivir was in the process of R&D for over ten years.  Originally developed for SARS and MERS, the commercial price of remdesivir will not be commensurate with the cost of manufacturing but rather the overall investment towards developing the drug over time.[xiii]  The company also recently announced in a SEC filing that they could invest up to “$1 billion or more” in remdesivir in 2020.[xiv]  Pricing remdesivir marginally above cost will result in a substantial net loss for Gilead that will hurt the company’s incentive to develop further treatments.  This is an unwelcomed fact but ignoring it would be wrong and dangerous.

The Patentability of Inventions Related to COVID-19 – PPE 

Patents are not to blame for the shortage of PPE – Personal Protective Equipment and respirators.  PPE and respirators are primarily manufactured abroad and due to the current disproportionate balance between supply and demand, they are scarce commodities.  But for some reason, the Governor of Kentucky wants 3M to license its patents on the N95 mask so that “everybody else can manufacture it.”[xv]  Even Nobel laureates suggest that 3M’s patents over the N95 mask “have made it more difficult for new producers to manufacture medical-grade face masks at scale.”[xvi]

3M does not have a monopoly over the N95 mask.  No one does.  Honeywell, Kimberly-Clark Corporation, Moldex-Metric, GlaxoSmithCline are just a few companies among many that are listed by the CDC that make and manufacture NIOSH-approved N95 respirators.[xvii]

The Coalition for Breathing Safety forewarned the shortage of respirators in 2006.  Manufacturers of the N95 mask were forced to move offshore due to the cost of defending product liability suits over the tightly regulated masks.[xviii]  Again, patents are not to blame for the shortage and do not stand in the way of manufacturers other than 3M from making these products.

See the next segment: Artificial Intelligence (AI), Data Storage & Blockchain –  the patentability of COVID19 Software Inventions.

The opinions stated herein are the sole opinions of the author and do not reflect the views or opinions of the National Law Review or any of its affiliates.


[i] Robert Langreth and Susan Berfield, Famed AIDS Researcher Is Racing to Find a Coronavirus Treatment, Bloomberg Businessweek (March 20, 2020), https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-03-19/this-famous-aids-researcher-wants-to-find-a-coronavirus-cure.

[ii] Congressional Progressive Leaders Announce Principles On COVID-19 Drug Pricing for Next Coronavirus Response Package, (2020), https://schakowsky.house.gov/media/press-releases/congressional-progressive-leaders-announce-principles-COVID-19-drug-pricing (last visited May 10, 2020).

[iii] Melanie D. Whittington, PhD and Jonathan D. Campbell, PhD, Alternative Pricing Models for Remdesivir and Other Potential Treatments for COVID-19, Institute for Clinical and Economic Review (May 1, 2020), https://icer-review.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/ICER-COVID_Initial_Abstract_05012020-3.pdf.

[iv] Paul R. Michel, To prepare for the next pandemic, Congress should restore patent protections for diagnostic tests, Roll Call (April 28, 2020), https://www.rollcall.com/2020/04/28/to-prepare-for-the-next-pandemic-congress-should-restore-patent-protections-for-diagnostic-tests/.

[v] Joseph E. Stiglitz, Should patents come before patients? How drug monopolies hamper the fight against coronavirus, Project Syndicate (April 23, 2020), https://www.marketwatch.com/story/should-patents-come-before-patients-how-drug-monopolies-hamper-the-fight-against-coronavirus-2020-04-23?mod=article_inline

[vi] Id.

[vii]  U.S. Influenza Surveillance System: Purpose and Methods, Center for Disease Control, available at https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm (last accessed May 10, 2020).

[viii] Mayo v. Prometheus, 566 U.S. 66 (2012), available at https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-1150.pdf.

[ix] Mateo Aboy, Mayo’s impact on patent applications related to biotechnology, diagnostics and personalized medicine, Nature Biotechnology (May 3, 2019), https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-019-0111-5.

[x] Id.

[xi] Paul R. Michel, To prepare for the next pandemic, Congress should restore patent protections for diagnostic tests, Roll Call (April 28, 2020), https://www.rollcall.com/2020/04/28/to-prepare-for-the-next-pandemic-congress-should-restore-patent-protections-for-diagnostic-tests/.

[xii] Sydney Lupkin, Putting A Price On COVID-19 Treatment Remdesivir, NPR (May 8, 2020), https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/08/851632704/putting-a-price-on-COVID-19-treatment-remdesivir.

[xiii] John F. CoganRemdesivir Affirms the American Way, Wall Street Journal (May 1, 2020), https://www.wsj.com/articles/remdesivir-affirms-the-american-way-11588368750.

[xiv] QUARTERLY REPORT PURSUANT TO SECTION 13 OR 15(d) OF THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934, Gilead Sciences Inc., available at http://investors.gilead.com/node/36926/html (last visited May 10, 2020).

[xv] The Netherlands Joins COVID-19 IP Pool Initiative; Kentucky Governor Requests 3M Release N95 Patent, Health Policy Watch (April 8, 2020), https://healthpolicy-watch.org/the-netherlands-joins-COVID-19-ip-pool-initiative-kentucky-governor-requests-3m-release-n95-patent/?mod=article_inline.

[xvi] Joseph E. Stiglitz, Should patents come before patients? How drug monopolies hamper the fight against coronavirus, Project Syndicate (April 23, 2020), https://www.marketwatch.com/story/should-patents-come-before-patients-how-drug-monopolies-hamper-the-fight-against-coronavirus-2020-04-23?mod=article_inline.

[xvii] NIOSH-Approved N95 Particulate Filtering Facepiece Respirators, Center for Disease Control, available at https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/N95list1-a.html (last accessed May 10, 2020).

[xviii]  Sandy Smith, Six Respirator Manufacturers Warn President of Shortage of Masks, EHSToday (June 22, 2006), https://www.ehstoday.com/emergency-management/article/21912885/six-respirator-manufacturers-warn-president-of-shortage-of-masks.


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New Platform to Facilitate Development of COVID-19 Technologies

The United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) has launched a new platform that could expedite the development of COVID-19 related technologies. As explained in the USPTO’s press release, the Patents 4 Partnerships web-based marketplace is designed to “facilitate the voluntary licensing and commercialization of innovations in a variety of key technologies” related to “the prevention, treatment, and diagnosis of COVID-19.”

The Patents 4 Partnerships IP marketplace platform currently lists 175 granted U.S. patents and pending U.S. patent applications, covering such diverse technologies as “Methods of Treating Coronavirus Infection,” “Air-Sampling Device and Method of Use,” “Rapid and Highly Fieldable Viral Diagnostic,” and “Dexterous Humanoid Robotic Wrist.” According to the press release, the initially listed items were “drawn from a variety of public sources, including the USPTO, the Federal Laboratory Consortium for Technology Transfer (FLC Business), the AUTM Innovation Marketplace (AIM), universities, and a number of federal agencies.”

Stakeholders wanting to add their U.S. patents or applications to the Patents 4 Partnerships platform can complete this simple form. As noted on the form, the technology should be “reasonably related to the prevention, treatment, diagnosis, protection from or alleviation of symptoms of coronaviruses in general.”


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U.S. District Court Issues Temporary Restraining Order for Silver Products Fraudulently Promoted as a Treatment for COVID-19

On April 29, 2020, the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah issued a temporary restraining order (TRO) to halt the sale of a fraudulent coronavirus (COVID-19) treatment.  The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) announced the court’s decision in an effort to halt the sale of silver products fraudulently claimed to prevent and cure COVID-19.

DOJ filed a civil complaint on April 27, 2020, against defendants Gordon Pedersen of Cedar Hills, Utah and his companies, My Doctor Suggests LLC and GP Silver LLC.  The complaint alleges that defendants began fraudulently promoting and selling various silver products in early 2020 with claims that the silver products would treat and prevent COVID-19.  Some of the alleged false and misleading claims made by defendants include that having silver particles in the bloodstream would block the virus from attaching to cells, that silver would “usher” the virus out of the body, and that silver would destroy all forms of viruses and protect against COVID-19.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a statement on the Utah case that “FDA will continue to help ensure those who place profits above the public health during the COVID-19 pandemic are stopped” and that FDA is “fully committed to working with the Department of Justice to take appropriate action against those jeopardizing the health of Americans by offering and distributing products with unproven claims to prevent or treat COVID-19.”

The enforcement action will be prosecuted in a coordinated action by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Utah and the DOJ Civil Division Consumer Protection Branch, with the assistance of the FDA’s Office of Criminal Investigations and Office of the Chief Counsel.  In addition to the TRO, prosecutors obtained a separate court order temporarily freezing the defendants’ assets in order to preserve the court’s ability to grant effective final relief and to maintain the status quo.  A hearing on the DOJ’s request for a preliminary injunction is set for May 12, 2020.  If the case proceeds to trial, the government will need to prove its allegations to obtain a permanent injunction against the defendants.

In another case, DOJ announced on April 17, 2020, that the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida issued a TRO to halt the sale of an unapproved and potentially dangerous industrial bleach product being marketed as a “miracle” treatment for COVID-19.  The FDA and the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) had issued a warning letter to the defendant, Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, on April 8, 2020.  According to the FDA, oral ingestion of the defendant’s product called the Miracle Mineral Solution can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and severe dehydration.  The FDA and the FTC have issued nearly 40 separate warning letters in 2020 to companies selling unapproved or misbranded products with claims to prevent or to treat COVID-19.

Commentary

Particulate elemental silver and silver salts can be effective antimicrobial agents, and numerous products containing these active ingredients are currently registered for various antimicrobial uses.  The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, along with other federal agencies, are working to ensure that necessary reviews and approvals of legitimate products intended to address COVID 19 are as expeditious as possible.  Products that need these regulatory reviews and approval, but that are marketed without them, are and will likely continue to be a current enforcement focus.


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IMS Insights Podcast: Episode 9- Rudhir Krishtel On Mindfulness And Wellness For Attorneys Amid COVID-19

In this episode, Rudhir Krishtel joins us to share guidance on mindfulness and wellness for attorneys. He also provides tips and strategies to help with adjustments for those balancing the intense demands of a legal career during the uncertainties of the COVID-19 pandemic.

In his lawyer days, Rudhir practiced law for fifteen years as a federal clerk, patent litigation partner at Fish & Richardson, and later as senior patent counsel at Apple.

Today, he is a certified Co-Active Coach and facilitator, focusing on workplace wellness and intensity for law firms and attorneys. Many lawyers struggle with stress and lack of purpose in their practice. As a former lawyer, Rudhir coaches clients and hosts workshops to identify the issues that hold lawyers back from advancing in their career with clarity and fulfillment.

His work during his lawyer days led Rudhir to train as a yoga teacher through the Baptiste Institute and on mindfulness meditation through Warrior One. He also a Professional Certified Coach through the Coaches Training Institute & International Coaching Federation, and uses this training along with his experience as a practitioner to deliver much-needed support for the legal community. Details on Rudhir’s consulting and mindfulness workshops for attorneys can be found at www.krishtel.com.

Transcript

Teresa Barber: Rudhir, hello, thank you. I really appreciate you joining us today. Could you tell me just a little bit for our listeners… Tell us a little bit about your background as an attorney and a little bit about your consulting practice.

Rudhir Krishtel: Yeah, Teresa, thank you so much, and thanks IMS for having me here. I was practicing law for 15 years. I started at my practice as a federal clerk. I was ultimately a partner at Fish & Richardson in their patent litigation team in the DC office. Then for the last five years of my practice, I was senior in-house counsel at Apple out here in the Bay area where I moved to seven, eight years ago.

Rudhir: After 15 years of practice, I started to notice… What I started to see were cycles of behavior in the practice over 15 years, just ways that we all behave at work that I felt like were somewhat compromising to our practice. I started to notice that we accept that stress is a part, a natural part, of our work life. We wouldn’t get paid as lawyers at the rates that we charge, and we wouldn’t be able to do the work that we do if it wasn’t something that was challenging or stressful, so I totally understood that.

Rudhir: But there’s this interesting relationship where work caused stress, but then stress actually started to impact the quality of our relationships and ultimately the work product. It is this weird cycle where work causes stress but then stress impacts the work. I think everyone just accepted that as the norm, and I felt like this was a dialogue that we needed to have and a cycle in the system that we needed to improve.

Rudhir: It’s when I decided to leave the practice. Three years back I left the practice. I retrained first as a mindfulness instructor and yoga instructor. And not wanting lawyers on their yoga mats all the time, I ultimately trained as an executive coach. Now, I coach attorneys. I have a coaching business that’s Krishtel Coaching. I coach attorneys in their practice one on one, and we identify some of the most challenging aspects of your practice and try to move them out of the way so that attorneys have a more fulfilling practice. I also host workshops. I visit law firms and legal departments and host dialogue on ways that we can start shifting our culture, build a greater resilience, incorporate emotional intelligence and mindfulness practices. I also host online coaching programs and webinars on these topics.

Rudhir: The consulting and the coaching practice has evolved over the last many years. I’ve now coached over 100 attorneys, managing partners at law firms, general counsel at companies, a wide range of attorneys on really how they can be better for themselves and others in their practice and really trying to shift and improve our culture in the legal workplace.

Teresa: Rudhir, it sounds like you identified the need while you were in the boiling pan yourself and didn’t really see anyone meeting those needs. As you’ve worked now for a number of years with clients, especially at big law firms and at corporations in house, what have you seen as the return on it? It sounds like you also had a theory that if we start to apply this, it’s not only going to improve quality of life and wellness and balance, but will also impact work product. I would be interested in some antidotes from clients you’ve worked with so far.

Rudhir: Teresa, what you said first is what I want to tap into a little bit, which is what I did notice during my time at Apple. You make this switch from a partner in law firm to go in house, and we think about it as sort of this greener pasture switch, attorneys going in house. What I notice is I got more senior in the practice. With every level up, growing of the team, salary bump, promotion, whatever it was, every time the further I got up, the lonelier I felt.

Rudhir: It’s very interesting that here we are achieving this so-called dream, and yet I felt somewhat more isolated, and I’m a pretty social person. I’m the person at Fish that was head of recruiting for our office. I’m definitely the person that planned all of the March Madness pools and getting everybody back together outside of work. I’m that person. For me to feel somewhat isolated was really fascinating, to be naturally connected and connecting and yet feel lonely at the same time was a very odd experience.

Rudhir: But I felt it more and more as I got more senior. I started to realize, “Well, if I’m experiencing this, how many other people are experiencing this?” There’s this unique thing that happens in legal practices that we are shrouded in confidentiality and in adversity in this adversarial experience. There’s a lack of trust that we have oftentimes with our colleagues. The thing that’s most challenging for me at work, I’m not sure I’d be comfortable talking to my colleagues about, whether it be a difficulty with a technical issue or a difficulty with building business or a challenge with how I’m managing my team. Sometimes we’re not comfortable being necessarily open about that with our colleagues just because of the legal work environment.

Rudhir: I started to notice this, and I realized I’m so senior in this practice I wish I had my own set of advisors. I’m at this point where I’m generating enough revenue. I’m generating enough revenue for myself that small businesses generate. We’re in the hundreds of thousands now. Some lawyers are in the low seven figures in terms of their business generation and their income. Yet, I don’t know who my closest advisors necessarily are that I just deeply trust.

Teresa: Right.

Rudhir: I started realizing, “Well, if I’m having that issue, there must be other attorneys that are having this issue.” And it becomes even that much more compounded with intersectionality. Now we’re talking about women that might be having these challenges, attorneys of color that might be having these challenges, really everybody. When I started to notice this, I thought, “Here’s a space that I feel like we need someone to step into.” That’s the decision that I made. It’s very interesting. I work with a wide range of clients, and to sort of address your second question, the second part of your question, is it’s just been deeply valuable this work for the clients that I’ve worked with, and it shows up in many ways.

Rudhir: People don’t often think about connecting with… Well, let me say that differently, Teresa. When we have somebody in our corner that is willing to champion us, that is willing to hear us out, that is willing to co-strategize with us, that is sort of a peer in the practice and that has real confidentiality, so much is possible. I’ve sort of seen that with my clients. I’ve seen a lot of growth and evolution on people having much better relationships with their teams, managing their groups in healthier ways, finding ways to solve problems with some of the challenges they face in their teams, interacting with people in a healthier way, becoming that much more adapt at generating business and for people that are looking for some sort of a transition and feeling stuck really having place where they can start to dialogue and strategize and brainstorm on that, and we come up with just incredible directional shifts for people in their life and their business. This practice I feel like has been a huge benefit to the clients that I work with.

Teresa: You touched on something that was interesting to you a minute ago, Rudhir. You were talking about this feeling of isolation, social isolation. We’re talking today and it’s later in March 2020. Back on December 31, 2019, the World Health Organization first identified an epidemic in China. Today, we’re looking at shelter in place orders not only around the San Francisco Bay area but throughout that entire state possibly with more coming in other markets and many people now working in a brand new environment, work from home environment where those lines between family and work are blurred a little bit.

Teresa: Looking at the 2019 novel Coronavirus pandemic, this is unprecedented territory, with you and your work with clients, what are you seeing right now?

Rudhir: It’s very interesting because I tend to think that lawyers as I mentioned despite us working with each other and connecting tend to have somewhat more of a natural isolation and loneliness already. This is just me saying this. There have actually been studies. The ABA has put out studies. There are psychologists that have put out studies that identify and indicate that lawyers have less sort of a lower social tendency than others than most.

Rudhir: And so at a time when we’re now even doubling down on the isolation, I’ve seen a lot of challenge. I see lawyers that are expressing concerns over a lot of things. Here we have a group of people that are natural problem solvers, lawyers are natural problem solvers. We are always thinking ahead. As we think ahead, we’re thinking ahead to how long is this going to last. There’s an uncertainty.

Teresa: Right.

Rudhir: We’re thinking to how is this going to impact my business? For in-house attorneys the business that they’re in and corporation that they’re in, but for outside counsel attorneys, how is this affecting my business development and business generation? What does this mean for my income? What does this mean for my team? What might this mean for the health of my family and the people around me? What might this mean for others? There’s just a lot of concern layered on top of a business and a practice that already has us sort of in a position where we’re “constantly putting out fires.”

Rudhir: I think that what I’m seeing is a higher level of anxiety in some than what might usually be the case. I think when anxiety comes up, we are not at our best self. We are not behaving in a way that is sort of rooted in our best self. We’re being reactive. We are thinking about we’re in sort of a flight or fight mode. We’re thinking about ways that we can run and save things or we’re thinking about ways that we can sort of fix things right away. I think there’s a deep discomfort that’s happening in this moment.

Teresa: With the questions that you’re seeing from clients right now, I know you’ve set up a webinar right now. You’re providing some guidance to people who are looking for it. What can people do right now? With the sense of what do I have control over, there is so much certainty. What are you telling people right now?

Rudhir: Yeah. I set up a free webinar Wednesdays mornings at 9:00 a.m. Pacific, noon Eastern on mindfulness tools for managing uncertainty. I find that mindfulness practices, resilience practices, emotional intelligence practices are very much relevant in this time. I think that even just paying attention to the news has me at a slightly higher level of anxiety. I’m waking up a bit more tired than usual this week. It’s just very interesting. Not much has changed because we work from home my wife and I, and so for us to practice social distancing and kind of put a barrier around our house is actually not too different than what we’re usually doing.

Teresa: Right.

Rudhir: I’m slightly more on edge and slightly more tired. These practices of mindfulness and resilience and emotional intelligence, I think, are just really valuable in this moment. I’ve started to offer them out on a weekly webinar, just simple tools. For example, you asked what might be something that we can do. Lawyers, we tend to be very head heavy. I didn’t even understand what that meant a few years ago because I didn’t know what the difference was between that and anything else.

Rudhir: We tend to be thinking people. We’re valued for our knowledge. People want us for our advice, and we want to offer our advice. We’re problem solving. We always respect and value the attorney that “knows more.” So much of our work is in our head. Settling the body and settling ourselves in these times actually happens in the body. What percentage of our livelihood is our mind physically, and what percentage is our body? That’s an interesting question to ask. So much of us is our body. In fact, most, if not all of us, is our body.

Rudhir: One of the first tools that we talked about in this webinar was a body scan technique. A body scan is a meditation technique that allows us to just pay attention to what else is happening right now in our body. There’s just a lot of information there. Lawyers are great at gathering information. We’re incredible at intake. I think in this moment one of the tools is just actually take intake for yourself. We’re always asking someone else, “So what’s your problem? What happened? Who are the people involved?” Et cetera. The questions that I offer are, “What’s happening in my body right now? What’s happening in my breath? What am I noticing in my chest? Is it tighter? What am I noticing in my stomach? Am I at unease? Are my feet grounded? What happens? What’s the difference between grounding my feet versus sitting them elsewhere? What’s the quality of my breath? What’s my body temperature?”

Rudhir: I think when we scan our bodies… And on my website I have mindfulness audio recordings and guided meditations, and these are available all over the place. There’s apps like Calm and Insight Timer and Headspace. UCLA has an incredible meditation center, and they have some great guided meditations. I offer a few on my website at Krishtel.com. Basically, what we’re inviting people to do is actually just pay attention to what’s happening for them in a moment.

Rudhir: This isn’t something that we need to do all day. A body scan meditation can be 10 minutes of your day, five minutes of your day. Pay attention to your breath. Even right now is one of those podcasts, Teresa, if you just sort of take a breath and pay attention to what’s going on in your lungs and what’s going on in your throat and just breathe. You just notice sort of a different quality show up. We kind of exist in this on edge slightly underlying nervosa, and it’s normalized in our practice. I think we can in this moment because it’s even exacerbated, it’s slightly more acute because of all the information coming in and everything that’s changing, I think is an incredible time to pay attention to breath, pay attention to body and just what’s going on for us.

Teresa: That’s really helping in hearing you talk about almost an inventory of awareness. Rudhir, for those, wellness has been a buzzword that’s been around and gaining increasing traction and attention in recent years. Can you break down mindfulness for those that may not be familiar with that term and just help us understand when we say mindfulness, when you say mindfulness, what do you mean?

Rudhir: I’d love to. I’d start by actually just saying that when I started regularly meditating, it was the beginning of an incredible shift in my life both professionally and personally. It’s for those who are exploring meditation and dabbling, the commitment to a practice of 20 minutes a day, 20 minutes twice a day or even 10 minutes a day of mindfulness practices I think can be the beginning of a huge evolution and even revolution in your life in terms of how you feel and just fulfillment.

Rudhir: When I was at Apple about a year or two in, I started a daily practice of 20 minutes twice a day of meditating. I’ll tell you a little bit more about what is mindfulness and different ways of practicing. Just to kind of get people in tune with the benefits, I started practicing, and so much changing. Three months of regular practice, I committed to 20 minutes twice a day, and I did it because actually I paid for a class. When you pay for a class for some reason, it’s just like a gym membership. Something happens, and you’re like, “All right, I’m paying the money. I’m going to make a commitment.”

Rudhir: I make the commitment of 20 minutes twice a day. I’m a coffee drinker. It’s not the morning coffee. It’s the 2:00 p.m. coffee for all my friends at Fish and Apple. At 2:00 p.m. it was clockwork. I’d come around the halls and say, “All right, let’s just go get coffee.” I noticed after two or three months of practicing… It’s not like it has an alarm set, it’s just at that time of the day you start feeling a little bit tired. My morning energy is I’m ready to go. Around 2:00 p.m. it starts to wither.

Rudhir: I started to notice three weeks had gone by and I hadn’t asked anyone for coffee. I’m an engineer by trade. Trained as an electrical engineer, studied, became an IP attorney, so I need a logical underpinning for a mental practice. At least I did at that time. I don’t anymore. I’m all in now. But back then I sort of needed some evidence. The evidence was just clear. I have so much more energy that I don’t need coffee. I don’t drink coffee from 7:00 a.m. until midnight, and I’m just fully functioning.

Rudhir: I couldn’t believe the shift that happened for me in that moment that I was getting a physical benefit to a mental practice. That’s when I decided I was all in. I started to have healthier interactions professionally. I started to notice that things were slowing down. People talk about time is going by fast. That’s not a thing for me anymore. Time actually does not go by fast. I started to worry less about all the things that were coming and about what was happening. I just started to feel more present.

Rudhir: There’s so much energy there. The energy is because… And this is for the people that are just looking for the logic. If your mind is moving less, and it’s sort of moving at a less rapid pace, it’s triggering less emotions. If you think about when you pay attention to what your thoughts are in a two minute period, “What am I going to eat for lunch?” It’s the basic thoughts. “What am I doing this week? What’s my schedule? What am I going to eat for lunch? What’s for dinner? What’s happening with that meeting?”

Rudhir: Each of those thoughts… And you notice in a two minute period they just keep spinning. Each of those thoughts may trigger and may bring out an emotion. When emotions come up in our body that is a moment where your energy starts to get drained because an emotion can trigger you to hunch your shoulders, and you don’t even realize. It may start reducing… slowing down your breath. You don’t even know. When that email comes in from that challenging client or from that colleague, you sort of hold your breath.

Rudhir: Those little moments add up in the course of the day. In our jobs you can work from 8:00 a.m. until midnight, not leave your desk, and feel like you ran a marathon that day. Mindfulness and meditation practices start to slow that down. They start to slow down the rapidity of the thoughts. They start to readjust how reactive you are to these things. They relax your body in these moments when you might naturally be tense or stressed. You’re gaining back 5% to 10% energy.

Rudhir: There’s this book Ten Percent Happier. I relate to almost everything that’s in that book because you really are. Ten percent more energy in this moment can be huge. How much more energy do you have at the end of the day for your colleagues, your clients, your family? You just have so much more energy. Just 10% can make such a difference. You were asking about what is mindfulness, but before I go into that, I’m curious if any questions are coming up for you based on what I’m saying?

Teresa: Well, I’m just anticipating questions. I think seeing the email come in or thinking about the email, it’s not saying that email is not important or that client’s need isn’t important, it’s putting it into a place where we’re not maybe as reactive to it, where it’s kind of processed in a way that is a little more centered. Right?

Rudhir: Yeah. This is a great dovetail into what is mindfulness because I think there’s a lot there. When I think about mindfulness you’ll see a range of definitions. But I consider if we’re paying attention to ourselves, our thoughts, our emotions and our body, and noticing what’s happening with those things, without judgment. And the without judgment piece is actually really important because oftentimes what’s happening for us we might think is wrong or something’s not great about it or amazing about it. Mindfulness is actually just let’s just pay attention to what’s happening.

Rudhir: I talked about this body scan technique as sort of one way which is paying attention to what’s happening with your feet and your legs and your stomach and your lungs and your shoulders. When that email comes in as an example. We all know that email, that alert, that case alert. That colleague, that person we don’t like, all of it. It happens at least 10 times a day. Ten times a day, 20 times a day, 100 times a day you tense up when that message comes in, and just sort of noticing what’s happening in your body in that moment rather than necessarily solving the email. Because our first reaction is what am I going to say? You might notice the quality of your breath in that moment that you’re actually not breathing. It’s fascinating just taking a deep breath in that moment rather than reacting right away and just noticing what happens to your body that it settles.

Rudhir: Noticing what happens to your shoulders, they tighten up, that you sort of take a forward learning approach, that you might get uneasy in your stomach. All these things are happening. As we pay attention to that, when we’re responding to that email from that place, it’s actually fight or flight. We’re responding from a place of fight or flight. Fight or flight is sort of an old… It’s an old system. It comes from an old brain of ours. It’s the amygdala. It’s an old brain. It’s a lizard brain that we have. It basically really comes from this era and this time of evolutionarily when we were sort of fighting bears and lions. You’re sort of out in the wild and you’re worried about fight or flight. Either I attack this thing that’s in front of me or I’ve got to leave.

Teresa: Base survival.

Rudhir: It’s survival. Yeah. By and large in our legal office, outside of that scary partner in the corner, there’s no bears around. There’s no tigers. For us to be experiencing fight or flight as much as we do in the course of our day is really a ratio that it happens versus the actual need is way out of proportion. The other thing is that creativity, centeredness, true leadership, aren’t happening when we’re in fight or flight. We’re not coming from a collected and a gathered place. We’re coming from a reactive place.

Rudhir: When we write a brief in a case, we don’t write a react, we write a response. I use these two words differently. There’s reacting, and there’s responding. I think responding comes from a place when we gather data and information, we use our wise lawyer selves, we are using wisdom, and we are responding in a gathered and a collected way. We’re reviewing. We’re able to come back to people from a centered place. That’s what we want in our briefing. That’s what we want in our responses to our colleagues, in our communications. We end up feeling in a reactive place, and so it’s fight or flight. It’s like, “If they say something, I can defend myself,” or “I’m going to avoid this email for a few hours because I’m nervous about what’s going to happen.”

Rudhir: So all these things come up. But when we take a breath we notice what’s happening in our shoulders, we notice what’s happening in ourselves, we notice the thinking and the nervousness that might be happening in our head. Maybe we can respond in a healthier way. Maybe we can slow down some of that movement and gain some energy back.

Teresa: Interesting using the word creativity. We’re in a transformative moment. Whether it’s a temporary transformation or whether we’re going to see lasting effects. We have the White House signing the Defense Production Act. Many people working from home. I’m sure for many there’s a lot of scary elements to what we’re seeing with the public health crisis around COVID-19. You and I we’ve had some earlier conversations about possibilities out there, but what do you see, Rudhir, right now as possible in this moment?

Rudhir: We have to be very thoughtful about many people whose health is being compromised in this moment, and we have to really be thoughtful about many people whose lives have shifted and are challenged by access to resources and hourly workers and wage workers whose jobs are being eliminated in the short term. There’s a lot of challenge and compromise that’s happening at this moment. We want to make sure that we keep our awareness on that.

Teresa: Right.

Rudhir: I actually feel like interestingly enough a lot is possible in this moment. I think there are new ways that we’ll be able to connect with people and we’ll be testing out. For example, this webinar that I’m doing or the greater number of video calls and group calls that I’m having online where people are finding healthier ways to interact. I actually think it’s an incredible time to call that colleague or that contact that you haven’t been in touch with for a while and just say, “Hey, how are you doing?” And just get on the phone or get on a video call and just listen and be with somebody and connect in a way that you might not have otherwise.

Rudhir: I do feel like people might have a little bit more time now, and if you think it’s a time where, for example, business development dies down, I think actually it’s the exact opposite. People are looking to connect in this moment, so fill that void. Finding new ways to connect right now, to reach out, to interact, to connect with your families and yourselves, I think that’s huge in this moment.

Rudhir: I think time alone can be an incredible time for coming up with new solutions and to be creative. I think about Isaac Newton came up with some of his most valuable theories, the roots of calculus, and the basic understandings that we have on gravity, some of the most critical theories that he came up with were during the Plague when he had to leave Cambridge and isolate during that moment.

Rudhir: Social distancing, this isn’t the first era of social distancing. This has been going on with every pandemic that we’ve experienced in the history of time. Even in that moment he came up with some of the most valuable scientific principles and mathematic principles that we lean on today. There’s this huge opportunity in this moment to be creative, to think about what’s possible.

Rudhir: And as lawyers we are in this service industry, and so there’s this incredible opportunity to think about what are the new ways and the different ways in which we can serve others and add value? When we are reactive and in fight or flight, we aren’t thinking from that place. We’re wondering how to protect ourselves or wondering how… what’s going to happen to us. But when we start slowing down and rooting in, we remember that there’s so much possible in this moment for all of us, so many systems that we can build to serve our clients and to support our colleagues.

Rudhir: I’m going to be offering team building webinars in the next few weeks. Here’s an opportunity. Your entire team is isolated. How do we stay connected in this moment? So maybe we jump on an hour and a half Zoom call, and we actually do a team building exercise, facilitated exercise, in this moment. For me, I just feel like so much is possible, and it’s time to really start thinking about creative ways that we can connect with others, which we all need as humans and in our professions, and so what are the ways that we can do that now?

Teresa: That’s really interesting. We’ve been hearing talk about… We’ve all been hearing the guidelines around social distancing, but moving to the term physical distancing to recognize that we need… We still as humans we still need a little bit of that connectivity that you’re talking about. Interesting. Rudhir, some of the resources we’ve been monitoring and sharing with our clients have been resources you have been sharing with broader audiences. Can you talk to us about what’s out there right now? What resources are there? You’ve really been pouring a lot of your focus to provide some guidance and help right now in the recent days and weeks. What’s out there right now? What are you working on, and what could you suggest as resources for people?
Rudhir: Well, we mentioned it once already, but I’m doing this weekly webinar on mindfulness tools for handling uncertainty, and I’m doing this every Wednesday morning through my relationship on the co-chair of the wellness committee for the National Asian Pacific American Bar Association. We’re doing a similar webinar on Thursdays every week right now, myself and a mentor of mine, Angela O., are doing this webinar every week for that community.
Rudhir: I’m talking with the Association of Corporate Counsel on putting out a webinar on what tools we can use to manage the challenge. There’s a couple of bar associations that I’m working with on how we can exhibit our leadership in this moment. How can we show leadership in this moment of challenge and difficulty? From my perspective, there’s a lot of offering that’s happening in this moment, and I think what’s really beautiful and really nice about the community is actually seeing all the things that are being offered up in this moment and ways that we can support each other.

Rudhir: I think it’s a great time to pay attention and listen and get online and see what’s being offered by others. There’s a lot of opportunities to interact in workshops and dialogues and ways to connect from home right now that I think people should be tapping into. I think it’s also just a time to connect for people that have the luxury of doing that with family in their home or even with nature. There’s no restriction on necessarily going out in some areas and actually just taking a walk and connecting in that way.

Rudhir: I do workshops on building resilience. Part of those dialogues we talk about, “What’s restorative for you?” What’s restorative for you? The answers that people typically come up with are things that are just very accessible to us even in this moment, which is time with my family and my friends, connecting with my pets, eating a really good meal, watching a good show, taking a walk in nature. All of these things people find restorative are by and large free and still very accessible to us in this moment.

Rudhir: This might just be a nice healthy hibernating moment for all of us. I think that another thing is this is actually a great opportunity for skills building. I work with a range of clients. For some of them, presentations and stand up are something that they like working on. There’s nothing stopping people from being at home and recording a presentation and seeing how they are. When we start thinking about what’s possible in this moment, I feel like there is so much opportunity.

Teresa: One of the other areas, we were discussing earlier, Rudhir, related to the new work at home scenario. Looking at the normal heavy workload that an attorney deals with, at least having that separation between work and home, without being blurred now, which not the case for you necessarily. You’re accustomed to it. What guidance are you providing right now for how to handle that new blurred line and how to handle what is really a novel situation for many professionals and especially for attorneys?

Rudhir: I think that it’s very interesting seeing this transition that people are making to being at home. Luckily, I’ve been working at home for a few years now, and so this transition wasn’t so difficult. I definitely feel like there are things that we can do to make this that much more comfortable. First, I think for people that don’t work from home a lot, it’s actually setting up a comfortable situation for sitting.

Rudhir: Some people might think this is the time to just work at the dining table or in that uncomfortable chair, but we might be here for a while. Maybe it’s time to get a nicer chair, a nicer desk at home. Maybe it’s time to invest in that, a standup desk or something, a chair that’s got good support for you. So actually just sit in a place that’s comfortable and not necessarily in the thing that you might default to when you do a little bit of work from home.

Rudhir: Second, I think that things that are really helpful are really when we’re working from home the boundaries really start to fade between work and home literally. There’s really no boundary anymore. You might have this urge to almost work all the time. There’s really no limit to it. I think there’s this mentality around clocking in and clocking out that I think can be a really welcome shift in this moment.
Rudhir: If you’re putting in certain hours, actually when does the pen go down? When does the laptop get shut? What are the few hours during the day where you’re actually just doing the thing that you need to do to take care of yourself or center? For some people, they’re not commuting anymore. They use that commute time as the period to transition from work to home. Create that transition period for yourself. Sit for five or ten minutes and do nothing and allow the mind to settle and shift. Let’s not just use all of our time now or fill all of that time with work because doing that along with all the information that’s coming in and the way that the world is changing can really start draining you further.

Rudhir: I think healthy boundaries with work right now are imperative and actually maybe just creating some mental shifts. When I go down to the living room, when I’m in my next room, that’s when I put the laptop… The laptop stays in this area of the house. I don’t let it carry everywhere. Just trying to think about physical and mental barriers that you can start to create between work and home even when you’re in one place so that it’s not all bleeding together. We work effectively when we are restored. We need to reenergize. So think about the things that reenergize you and try to build in systems at home that allow you to keep that energy.

Teresa: That’s helpful. Rudhir, you mentioned one mentor a few minutes ago in our conversation. Can you talk to me about any mentors that you’ve had throughout your career who’ve especially shaped your thinking, shaped your own career?

Rudhir: There’s so many. It’s a difficult question. I remember when you emailed me in advance about some of the things you might ask, I said let’s do this at the end. I was hoping it wouldn’t even get to these. I have so many mentors. There’s so many people that have been valuable. In the work that I do I always feel like I stand on the shoulders of so many people that came before, and so there’s just so many experiences that I have that are learning.

Rudhir: I think the place to start is that I just feel like every opportunity and every interaction is a moment of learning. I feel like I’m learning from people all the time. Mentors is a really higher elevated state for somebody I feel to hold that space. I learned so much from my clients. I learned so much on calls like this. I learned so much from every interaction. I think the first thing that comes to me is actually just not losing sight of the learning opportunities in every interaction. What can you learn about this person across from you and the rich experience that they have? What value might you be able to get in that possibility of that conversation?

Rudhir: The person that made this entire next chapter of my life that much more possible for me was my wife. When I was in my last few years at Apple, I started to feel this itch, and it was… I’m not sure, but I can’t say that I’m as happy as I’d like to be in my life professionally. I think there’s something else. I don’t know exactly what I want to do. I’d sort of come home every few days with this dialogue with her.

Rudhir: I’d sort of talk about different things that I want to do. I’d tell her, I’d say, “You know, I think I need a month or two off. I need a month or two off. I’m going to ask my manager and team if I can combine my four weeks of vacation with one other month off. It could be unpaid. I don’t care. I just need a couple of months to sit.” She said, “You don’t need two months. You need a year.”

Rudhir: I just thought, ” A year?” Apple doesn’t have a year long sabbatical program. How are we going to do that? She said, “I’m giving you a year.” She said, “For one year you don’t need to do a thing. You don’t have to generate any income. You don’t have to do anything around the house. You don’t have to do anything for a year, and whatever you do after that I don’t care. But for one year just take a break.”

Rudhir: I have never had that kind of permission before or just being met by somebody that was saying, “Look, you’re good as you are. You don’t need to do anything.” I think that that’s amazing. I just felt like to get that type of support from somebody… My wife runs a nonprofit. My mind was, “How are we going to manage the finances and everything?” She’s like, “We’ll budget. We’ll plan the way that organizations plan when they go through a transition.”

Rudhir: So we made the plan. As soon as the plan came into place, and I saw that it was possible, everything that was happening was leading to signs of leaving and taking this time off. I think she has a way of thinking and a being that’s very different from what I’m used to in my environment. It’s very refreshing. She really values people taking the time to restore because we don’t know what’s possible. She’s really at the sort of root of this transition, which is allowing me the time and space to think and see some of the challenges in our workplace.

Rudhir: What I did during that time off is I just wrote a lot and investigated and understood a lot about our work, and that’s what allowed me to see this opportunity for stepping into this whole new career path for me. When I think about people that I look up to or I look to, I think about right now in this moment of my life I think about my wife first.

Teresa: Rudhir, that’s really wonderful to hear you say it, and I appreciate you sharing too on such a personal level that story.

Rudhir: Well, I just want to offer that in this moment I feel like we’re experiencing challenging times. I feel like we’re part of an amazing profession that can actually offer a lot. If anyone could use any support or has any questions, please feel free to reach out. My website is Krishtel.com. My email is simple. It’s my first name Rudhir@Krishtel.com, and I’m sure you’ll be providing it, Teresa.

Rudhir: But feel free to reach out in this moment because I just feel like it’s an incredible opportunity for making sure that all of us are feeling good in a way that allows us to support our community in the way that lawyers do. We are very important center, I feel like fabric, of the world. I feel like we are really the center of a lot of leadership in the world. I feel like we’re in this position to offer a lot, and for anyone that needs support through that process I just welcome people to reach out and connect.

Teresa: Thank you, Rudhir. It’s been really wonderful speaking with you learning more about what you’ve been doing. We’ve enjoyed seeing it and really are happy to be able to share it with our audience too. We will be in touch for sure. We’ll definitely have your resources available on the podcast.

Rudhir: All right. Fantastic. Thank you, Teresa. Talk soon.

Teresa: Thanks, Rudhir. You too. Bye-bye.

Rudhir: Bye.

 

 


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OSHA Issues New COVID-19 Alert to Restaurants & Beverage Vendors

On May 1, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) issued a new safety alert for restaurant and food and beverage businesses operating during the pandemic. In the alert, OSHA suggests that restaurants providing curbside and takeout service should reserve parking spaces near the front door for pickup, avoid handing food off directly when possible, and allow workers to wear masks.

OSHA also urged businesses to display signs detailing their services such as pickup instructions and hours; take “sensible social distancing” measures such as moving workstations or installing plexiglass partitions; provide alcohol-based hand rubs and a place to wash hands; train workers in proper hygiene practices and the use of workplace controls; and encourage workers to report safety and health concerns.

This alert is the latest in a series of industry-specific documents OSHA has issued offering recommendations on ways to protect workers and patrons during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The agency has made the tips available in a one-page poster employers can display in the workplace.


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COVID-19: CMS Issues Second Round of Groundbreaking Changes for Telehealth – What You Need to Know

The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has introduced a new crop of temporary regulatory flexibilities in response to the COVID-19 public health emergency (PHE) in the form of new blanket waivers, implementing guidance related to provisions of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Support Act (CARES Act) regarding rural health clinics (RHCs) and federally qualified health centers (FQHCs), as well as a new interim final rule (April IFC). This flurry of new guidance comes exactly one month after CMS published an interim final rule on March 30 (March IFC). The new guidance sets forth a historic expansion of telehealth services by fully expanding the list of permissible telehealth providers, significantly broadening the availably of audio-only telehealth services for Medicare beneficiaries, among other significant telehealth expansions. The new blanket waivers and the April IFC (except as otherwise specifically designated) are retroactively effective as of March 1, 2020.

This article discusses the telehealth waivers and flexibilities in this most recent guidance from CMS aimed at making health care available to Medicare beneficiaries in a manner that keeps both providers and patients safe during the PHE.

Expanded List of Eligible Telehealth Practitioners

A long awaited change is here! Now, for the duration of the COVID-19 PHE, physical therapists, occupational therapists, and speech language pathologists, along with all others eligible to bill Medicare for professional services, may furnish distant site Medicare telehealth services. Prior to this blanket waiver, only physicians, nurse practitioners, physician assistants, and other specified providers could deliver Medicare covered telehealth services. The new blanket waiver removes these restrictions. However, practitioners must still adhere to applicable state law practice and licensure requirements when performing telehealth services.

Audio-Only Telehealth Elevated

In the March IFC, CMS established separate payment for audio-only telephone E/M services, specifically including CPT codes 99441, 99442, and 99443. In response to stakeholder feedback that the use of these codes is more widespread than CMS expected—as well as CMS’s realization that the audio-only visits are appropriate for a higher intensity of service than initially anticipated—CMS is:

  1. waiving the required use of video technology, and is allowing the use of audio-only equipment to furnish services described by the codes for audio-only telephone evaluation and management services (E/M), and behavioral health counseling and educational services (the list of the designated audio-only codes can be found here); and
  2. increasing reimbursement for CPT codes 99441, 99442, and 99443 to more closely align with reimbursement for similar office visits.

Codes that may be billed without satisfying the interactive video requirement will have a notation in the telehealth code list indicating that audio-only is appropriate. The ability to receive these increased payment rates is retroactive to March 1, 2020. Also, while the code descriptors refer to an “established patient,” CMS is exercising its enforcement discretion during the PHE to relax the requirement that the audio-only services be limited to established patients. CMS reminds practitioners that the cost-sharing obligations are still applicable to these telehealth services in cases where the practitioner is not appropriately waiving the cost-sharing obligations.

Opioid Treatment Programs (OTPs) May Furnish Periodic Assessments via Telephone

Pursuant to the April IFC, during the PHE CMS is allowing OTP periodic assessments to be furnished via two-way interactive audio-video communication technology and, in cases where beneficiaries do not have access to two-way audio-video communications technology, the periodic assessments may be furnished using audio-only telephone calls, provided all other applicable requirements are met. CMS expects that OTPs will use clinical judgment to determine whether they can adequately perform the periodic assessment with audio-only phone calls, and if not, then they should perform the assessment using two-way interactive audio-video communication technology or in person as clinically appropriate. Regardless of the format that is used, the OTP should document in the medical record the reason for the assessment and the substance of the assessment.

Medicare Coverage of RHCs and FQHCs Provided Telehealth

Previously, RHCs and FQHCs were not able to be paid by Medicare for telehealth services as a distant site. However, as required by the CARES Act, Medicare will now cover and reimburse telehealth services provided by RHCs and FQHCs from January 27, 2020 through the duration of the PHE. The key flexibilities afforded to RHCs and FQHCs include:

  1. Any telehealth service listed in the Medicare telehealth code list may be provided by the RHC/FQHC practitioners and the RHC/FQHC must use HCPCS code G2025 to identify the services being provided via telehealth;
  2. Effective March 6, 2020, patients may be at any site, including their home;
  3. The services can be furnished by any health care practitioner working for the RHC or FQHC within their scope of practice; and
  4. The practitioners can furnish the telehealth services from any distant site location, including their homes, during the time they are working for the RHC or FQHC.

CMS released detailed guidance on (a) claims submission requirements for RHCs/FQHCs; (b) how CMS will go about reprocessing and paying claims; (c) the timing of processing; (d) special billing rules and requirements related to cost-sharing waivers; and, (e) other important information that RHCs and FQHCs should review in advance of billing for any telehealth services. CMS set a payment rate for these claims at $92.03 (average amount of all telehealth services on the telehealth service list, weighted by volume), which will be reassessed if the PHE extends beyond the end of the year. CMS hopes these changes will increase access to care for beneficiaries in rural and underserved areas.

Hospital Billing and Facility Fee Reimbursement for Outpatient and Home Settings

Now hospitals may bill for telehealth services furnished by hospital-based physicians to patients registered as hospital outpatients, including when patients are at home, provided the home is serving as a temporary provider-based department of the hospital. CMS stated that the March IFC did not specifically address billing for hospital outpatients. CMS also reminded providers that reasons for the visit must be documented in the patient’s medical record. As such, hospitals can bill for both the distant site provider fee and the originating site facility fee for telehealth services rendered by hospital-based practitioners, even for patients at home.

New Telehealth Code Approval Procedure

Ordinarily CMS adds codes to the telehealth code list as part of its annual rule making. CMS is now changing its process to allow for the addition of new telehealth codes to the designated Medicare telehealth code list on a sub-regulatory basis, without the need for notice and comment. This will allow for faster and perhaps more frequent additions to the telehealth codes list and scope of Medicare telehealth benefit. However, any codes added to the list during this time period will remain on the list only during the COVID-19 PHE.

Time-Based Level Selection for E/M Telehealth

In the March IFC, CMS allowed for the E/M level selection for office/outpatient E/M services furnished via telehealth can be based on medical decision-making or time for the duration of the PHE. In doing so, CMS referenced typical times associated with E/M services in the Medicare public use file. However, the times in the public use file do not always align with the typical times included in the office/outpatient E/M code descriptors, causing confusion in the physician community. CMS resolved this confusion in the April IFC by revising its policy to clarify that the times listed in the CPT code descriptor should be used.

Loosened Remote Physiological Monitoring (RPM) Billing Requirements

Historically, RPM service described by CPT code 99454 could not be reported for monitoring of fewer than 16 days during a 30-day period. However, in the April IFC, acknowledging that many patients with COVID-19 who need remote patient monitoring do not need to be monitored for a full 16 days, CMS, for the duration of the PHE, is allowing RPM services to be reported for periods of time that are fewer than 16 days of 30 days, but no less than 2 days, as long as the other requirements for billing the code are met. CMS emphasized that payment for when monitoring lasts for fewer than 16 days of 30 days, but no less than 2 days, is limited to patients who have a suspected or confirmed diagnosis of COVID-19.

Inclusion of Telehealth and Virtual Care in ACO Primary Care Services

For the duration of the COVID 19 PHE, for purposes of the Medicare Shared Savings Program, CMS is revising the definition of primary care services used in the program’s assignment methodology, for performance year starting on January 1, 2020, to include remote evaluation of patient video/images, virtual check-ins, e-visits, telephone evaluation and management services and telehealth.

What’s Next?

The breadth of these changes and speed at which they have been made undoubtedly illustrates CMS’s view of telehealth as a key tool in addressing the COVID-19 PHE. The question that remains is which of these changes will have staying power beyond the PHE and will industry supporters finally have their day when telehealth is simply an equal choice or option among others in health care delivery.

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